paint plant used for sale

Qty. 1 Second-hand bar and wire rod production plant Mfc.: Sarralle, Danieli, ABB, Indar Built: 1990’s, 2000, 2005, 2007, 2010 Revamped: 2008 Capacity: 1,100,000 T/annum Entry material: Scrape Semi product: Billets Size: 130x130 mm or 140x140 mm Length: 8 – 13 m Reinforced Bars: Dia.: 8 - 40 mm Length: 6 – 12 m Rebars: Dia.: 8 - 16 mm ID: 850 mm OD: 1100 – 1250 mm Height: 800 mm Wire Rod: Dia.: 5.5 – 14 mm Scope of supply: Scrap Transportation Machines EAF Ladles Furnace Continuous Caster Billet Reheating Furnace 23 Rolling Mills (Dia. 8-10 mm) 21 Rolling Mills (Dia. 12-32 mm) Wire Rod Mill Flying Shears (2) Spooler Line Cooling beds (2) Cranes Transformes Spare Parts

Bread plant W&P Parta U CR59 The system consists of 4 machines 1x W&P Parta U dough divider 1x W&P Intermediate fermentation chamber 296 baskets 215x360cm and height 282cm 1x W&P CR59 Cone wiper 1x W&P long scooter

R&E Conveyor No 2618 Y.O.M. 1998 Width 2x 650 Length 16 m Curved, head approx. 6 m Good condition!

CONTAINER ANLAGE 90 m2 plant, 6x 20 FT OfficeContainer Building / Office / Living Room, residential container workshop container container plant BJ 2005 - 6x 20 foot container (2.47 m wide, 6.00 m long, 2.90 m high) exterior size - 2.50 m high inner dimension - Residential container office container construction site container, container plant - complete price 6 pieces, excluding assembly - easy assembly - Construction Year 2005

used Benier brotteig precursor with adjustable wits completely in stainless steel.The machine is immediately available in the warehouse in Bielefeld.Further used bakery machines please see the catalogue on the right we have more than 700 machines in stock in Stock. Built in 2002 400V / 50 Hz Stainless steel cladding with 2 blowers Scrapers are adjustable checked and cleaned Condition "good" Dimensions: Height: 150 cm Width: 220 cm Depth: 110 cm

Pos.1 Buffer conveyor belts for layer formation for 4 frieze lengths Pos.2 Gantry stacking system Pos.3 Parcel roller conveyors in the area of gantry systems Pos.4 Security technology Pos.5 Machine control Pos.6 Intermediate strip automatic The mechanization is designed for the following workpiece dimensions: Length: 320 - 1000 mm Width: 56 - 120 mm Thickness: 20 - 40 mm Stack Dimensions: Length: 400 - 1000 mm (double lengths up to 2 x 520mm) Width up to: 1200 mm Height up to: 1200 mm Stacking is carried out on Euro pallets Max. output: max 40 parts/min or max 4 layers/min (board or batten layer!) Pos.1 Buffer conveyor belts for layer formation for 4 frieze lengths Quantity: 4 pieces Length: 2600 mm each Usable width: 800 mm each Propulsion: Spur gear motor Conveying speed: 15 m/min Incl. side guide rulers and layer alignment (One layer is formed,  ...

Vacuum Packers Dillmann Machine Systems DMV 400 DMS Specifications: 230 Volt / 50 Hz / 4 A Year of construction 2008 Weight: 40 kg Chamber size: D420 x W455 x H110 mm Welding bar length: 430 mm max. bag size: 390 x 450 mm Machine design Completely stainless steel Compact, solid design Surface sanded domed acrylic glass lid 2 inserts for different height levels in the chamber High-performance pump with 16 m³ capacity Ease of use Vacuum-adjustable Welding time adjustable Stock machine, immediately available! Function checked condition see original pictures. 03423-706493

Bread-long wrapper W&P BM 51 B -with blue plastic straps -mobile on wheels -for bakery baking industry

- 5 aluminium silos with attachment filter incl. discharge screw with slide made of V2A - 4 aluminium silos for manual filling with discharge screws - 3 dosing scales - Optional with dust filter

Plant complete with all the machinery and molds to produce plastic pots, saucers, cages and thermoformed pot holders of various types and sizes: from 40 cm. up to 1 m. Composed of: N1) 135 ton SANDRETTO plastic injection press N1) 135 ton SANDRETTO plastic injection press N1) 200 ton SANDRETTO plastic injection press N1) 300 ton SANDRETTO plastic injection press N1) 400 ton SANDRETTO plastic injection press N1) 5 pallets CAMPETELLA robot + labeller N1) 7 pallets CAMPETELLA robot + labeller N3) automatic stacking and coding lines N2) mold cabinets with drawers with a capacity of 1000 kg N1) refrigerator to cool water N1) freecooler to cool the oil N59) molds for flower pots

Pressure Bottle Filler. 24 fillers. System FALSCH FLASCHEN. Whole machine made in inox. Machine after total renovation in 2019. Warranty: 24 months.

Y.O.M.: 1989 Temperature Homogenizer speed-controlled Agitator right-left speed-controlled very good condition Dimensions LWH: 900 x 500 x 1450 mm Control cabinet: 800 x 300 x 1550 mm Weight: approx. 500 kg

82MW ISO rated combined cycle power plant. The plant’s main equipment is composed of a Rolls Royce Trent 60 DLE Gas Turbine (also known as the SGT-A65), a Nooter/Eriksen HRSG, and a Siemens SST-300 Steam Turbine. These are below; 1. Rolls Royce USA, manufactured Trent 60 (SGT-A65) Gas Turbine Generator Set; · Manufactured in 2016, delivered in August 2017. Never used. · 65.9 MW(e) ISO · 43.8% Gross efficiency / 8,228 kJ/kWh Heat Rate · DLE Dry Low Emissions with ≤ 25 ppmvd at 15% O2 on fuel gas · Cold start to full power in under 10minutes · 50Hz, but easily convertible to 60Hz · Engine still preserved in original shipping container · An aero derivative gas turbine 2. HRSG is licensed by Nooter Eriksen USA; 3. Siemens Steam Turbine Generator SST-300 C2S/C160; · Manufactured in 2016 · Output 15.75MW ISO · Speed 7059 RPM · Admi ...

Y.O.M.: 1980 No.: 10027 Usable volume: 150 l Pressure double jacket: +1 bar Vacuum pump Pressure gauge, temp gauge Scraper agitator, three-way valve 3 intake ducts Lid to be opened via lifting pull Dimensions LWH: 1700 x 1000 x 2100 mm Weight: approx. 500 kg Products: e.g. mayonnaise, sauces, ketchup, cosmetics, creams etc.

Dairy Mschinery UK now offers new Glass Bottle Fillers for Milk and Juice. We offer machines for Hot fill and Cold Fill. Our bottle capacities are between 1000 - 7000 bottles per hour. Manufacture : Dairy Machinery UK Volume : 500ml - 1000ml Capacity : Option on order between 1000- 7000 bph Capping : 38mm magnetic capping chucks Filling Nozzles : Gravity Filling on Rubbers Lift and Fill or Gravity Filling Drop and Fill Cap : Aluminium Screw Cap CIP : Available Controls : Control panel Standards 2019 Certified : EC certificates Installation : We install all our machines at the clients facilities. Warranty : 12 months Spare Parts : spares@dairymachineryuk.co.uk

Y.O.M.: 1991 No.: 4745 2 hoppers, 1x with double jacket Scraper agitator speed-controlled Homogenizer speed-controlled Double jacket pressure-resistant Temperature controller, vacuum Condition: very good Dimensions LWH: 1100 x 600 x 950 mm Weight: approx. 300 kg

Fat baking device Berlinerbackstation Esback -Built in 2009

Used line for big-bag unloading, mixing, screening and packing powders into bags The line includes: 1. Station for emptying large-capacity bags. As a stand-alone device, it is used to empty large-capacity bags in a bagging line. The station consists of a stable supporting frame with a discharge hopper with an iris closure, a tip and an emptying screw feeder. The upper structure with a large-capacity bag suspended on a removable suspended cross will be placed on the lower frame using a high-lift truck. The cross on the upper structure is fitted with a sliding fit - on four gas supports, which ensure gradual lifting of the large-capacity bag during emptying, which ensures complete emptying of the bag. 2. Mixer 3. Conveyor system 4. Screener 5. TPL 50 strain gauge bagging line for filling open bags Main elements of the line: - Scale pre-tank with supporting structure and  ...

36,000 m3 thermal oil supply system/exhaust air purification plant (special plant construction) WK, Year of construction: 2012, with heat recovery and cooling supply, The system is currently designed for two printing systems. Depending on the Machine equipment for 3 - 4 printing systems. The system consists of the following components: - 1 roof-mounted thermal post-combustion system / exhaust air purification WK Thermal Engineering Plant, boiler and apparatus construction WKTNV, year of construction: 2012, exhaust air volume at the inlet 36,000 m³/h, maximum permissible combustion chamber temperature max. 730 °C, burner type WK/H1 gas cone, Burner power 6,600 kW, fan power 200 kW, maximum permissible inlet temperature 210 °C, Maximum permissible solvent throughput 500 kg/h, natural gas heating medium, calorific value of the heating medium 32693 kJ/m³, max. heating fuel con ...

Y.O.M.: 1999 No.: 900/1 Scraper and Homo speed-controlled Vertical stroke, double jacket, swivel Temperature gauge, Vacuum, Ystral-Turrax Temperature control device GWK Type teco CS 90 Y.O.M.: 2002 Heating capacity: 9 kW Cooling capacity 23 kW, temperature maximum 95°C Dimensions LWH: 1200 x 800 x 1000 mm Weight: approx. 100 kg

A steam-powered freeze drying plant HOF with 1.8 m2 usable space. With stainless steel chamber door, ice capacitor, set of actuators (6 pcs.) sep. Panel.

Powder coating system for large parts Example:(all sizes can be changed individually) Space requirement: 30 x 15 meters Part size: L= 6,200mm W= 2,300mm H= 2,000mm Cleaning booth walk-in incl. spray wreath automatic 1 Dimensions of the cabin Length 9,000 mm Width 4,500 mm Height 3,400 mm 2 Mass of tanks Length 1,200 mm Width 850 mm Height 1,000 mm 2 Dimensions of the cabin complete Length 9,140 mm including tanks width 5,580 mm Height 4,200 mm Coating booth walk-in, manual coating Lmmuapd8S 1 Dimensions cabin length 9,000 mm Width 4,500 mm Height 3,400 mm 2 Dimensions of the cabin including extraction Length 10,125 mm Width 4,500 mm Height 3,400 mm Powder curing furnace 1 Inner dimension length 6,500 mm 2 Inner dimensions width 2,500 mm 3 Internal dimensions height 2,950 mm 4 Outer dimensions incl. thermoblock length 7,600 mm 5 Outer dimensions incl. ...

Conveyor belt / climbing belt (inchGiraffeinch), built in 2013, in a very good used and functional condition. All metal parts made of stainless steel. Plastic conveyor belt, 45 cm wide, with takers. Rise height 210 cm. Machine is rollable. Speed infinitely adjustable. Connection values 400 volts, 0.55 kW. Workshop-tested, ready for immediate use. More on request.

1. Powder curing furnace 1,500 x 1,200 x 1,750 mm 2. Powder Coating Booth -KG DUO-01 3. Wagner powder coating plant, – Prima Sprint – 1. Powder curing furnace 1,500 x 1,200 x 1,750 mm 1 Inner dimension length 1,500 mm 2 Inner dimensions width 1,200 mm 3 Internal dimensions height 1,750 mm 4 Outer dimensions incl. thermoblock length 2,250 mm 5 Outer dimensions incl. thermoblock width 1,815 mm 6 External dimensions incl. thermoblock height 2,006 mm, 2,296 mm incl. exhaust pipe 7 Substructure 1 set of steel profile 8 walls 1 set of galvanized sheets 1mm on both sides, RAL on the outside 9 insulation walls, ceiling 1 set of rock wool 150 mm, floor is insulated with 50 mm 10 Floor Furnace Gets 2 Entry Rails for Tray Wagons 11 Temperature 220°C 12 fans 1 pc. 2,600 m³/h 13 electric motors 1 pc 1.1 kW , 1450 rpm, 3 F, 50 Hz 14 Thermal power 14 kW 15 hinged doors, single ...

220 MW SGT-600 GT Complete Power Plant Duel Fuel Gas Turbine Power Plant Gensets 220.5 Megawatts in total 6 units available, 24.5 Mw each Speed 1,500 rpm, Generator Output 11 kV, Frequency 50 Hz Average running hours 70.000 hours Gas Turbine Power Plant operated predominately on natural gas with standby diesel fuel. Can be converted to alternative fuels as heavy fuel oil . Depends on the demand and needs of the customer. Phase I (5 units, commissioned on 2007) Phase II (4 units commissioned on 2012) Routine preventive maintenance was done for all units under OEM supervision, Emission ISO Standard at 15% O₂ Original Dry Low NOX ( DLE ) Combustion Chambers Inertial Filtration and Single Stage F9

Scraper and homogenizer (Ystral) speed-controlled Vertical stroke, double jacket swiveling with heating and vacuum pump on a mobile cart switchgear, timers, etc. Condition very good Dimensions LWH: 700 x 600 x 1900 mm Weight: approx. 150 kg

Material: PE, PP, PS // DC motor: 132 kW, power: approx. 300 - 500 KG/hr, screw 90mm, L/D30, strand nozzle, water bath, strand granulator.

Wood flooring line consisting of: Motorized loading roller conveyor Suction cup loader Squaring / panel saw Multi-blade panel saw Tipper dry or glue interlocking slats Stacking machines Packaging machines Parcel loader Packaging Automatic strapping machine for pallet unloading camera-driven movements The loading roller conveyor, the stack (max 50 sheets, 8mm thick) is transported under the suction cup loader, where the panels are picked up and positioned on the hopper of the panel saw. Model:TSA 360A The sectioned sheets go on a 90° translator and are transported by belts over a suction cup introducer.

Compounding system with underwater granulation. Material: PE, PP, PS, ABS (+ fillers) // Details: DC motor, DC rotor, segmented screws (2x x 70 mm / 40D) and cylinders, degassing, vacuum pump, stuffing unit, backwash screen changer GNEUSS RSF 150, underwater granulation GALA with cutting rotor, water circulation system, heat exchanger, centrifugal dryer. Controls: SIEMENS S7 with screen visualization. Available at an additional cost: Sidefeeder, 4-fold gravimetric dosing system. (Ref. No. G27615.2)

For sale is a workshop-overhauled and function-tested, free-standing VA diatomaceous earth dosing device. The device is immediately ready for use. Specifications: Manufacturer: Schenk Year of manufacture: unknown Type: DO-S-250 Boiler capacity: approx. 250 l (with lid almost 1/2 hinged with hinge) Hourly output for KG filtration: 200 hl for beer, wine and fruit juice Dimensions total: L max. = 1.20 m / W max = 0.80 m / H max. = 1.685 m Beer pipe: Input/outlet DN 50 KM/G - Dosing connection in the beer pipe DN 25 KM Connections in the boiler: 1 inlet at the top side DN 50 G with 90-degree bend (inside) downwards 1 remaining outlet DN 50 G with shaft closure and handle from above 1 connection DN 32 KM above 1 DN 50 KM connection at the bottom side with a 90 degree bend upwards - then reduced from DN 50 to DN 10 G Boiler dimensions: Diam. inside = 0.65 m ...

CoEx plate system net. 1350x1-10 mm Material: PE, PS, HIPS, ABS / Details: Main extruder RH EH2400-1-150-33V, co-extruder RH 121-1-50-30V, vacuum pump, CoEx-block, double hydr. Sieve changer with hydr. Station, wide-slit nozzle 1,450 mm, 3-roller smoothing unit RH GK-1600-60-G1 1,640 x 600 mm, Kelvi Plast temperature control unit, cooling section, side strip trim with knife beam, rubber roller extractor RH AT160-20, guillotine RAS 83.20, vacuum conveyor, CoEx dryer material, stacking device. (Ref-No. T27614)

Hyundai Steel Dangjin Facility (widely known as "Thin Plate Mill") is a premier steel production plant featuring a Compact Strip Process (CSP) as the main production line, complemented by a 150-tonne heat-size electric Meltshop, a thick Slab Caster, and two Skin Pass Mills. Initially commissioned by Hanbo Steel in 1995, this facility was acquired by Hyundai Steel in 2004 including a major modernization in 2011 and more recent upgrades, ensuring its continued excellence in production. Assets Available for Sale: • Electric Meltshop 150 tonnes heat size – DC EBT Electric Arc Furnace, Ladle Furnace, Vacuum Degasser and associated equipment. • CSP – A Thin Slab Cast & Rolling line combining casting, heating, and rolling. 55mm thickness slabs directly enter a tunnel furnace and are rolled in a Hot Strip Mill for final strip thickness from 1.4 to 16mm and up to 1,560mm width ...

Compounding plant Material: PE, PP, PS, WPC + fillers / Details: segmented screws and cylinders, three-phase motor 250 kW, dcrunner, screw speed: 300 rpm, degassing, 2x busch vacuum pump, side feeding Berstorff ZSFE 120 SO, metal separator, noise protection hood, ECON air granulating system ELG 3000, control: SIEMENS S7 with visualization. Up for a surcharge: extension to 40D possible

Resin production plant. Capapcity 1200 tons per month. Plant can produce acrylic resins, alahide resins, poliuerethane resins on  buthyl octate base, acetone base, and xylane base. Plant can produce 55-60% resin concentrate wchich acan later be diluted in another factory. Plant has 3 main pressure reactors each 10 ton of batch. Plant has a storage tanks 160000 L tanks. Plant is build in Atex execution. More information available upon request. Advise on resin production technology, recepies and technological advise is possible on separate agreement and price. Below you can find a photo gallery of the factory, more information please call.

Compounding plant for fiberglass contaminant PE/PP Snail/LD 70/38 Material: PE, PP // Extruder with high-wear process unit (HIP), segmented screws and cylinders of 70 mm / 40D, AC-motor 260 kW,, degassing, continuous rotor, vacuum pump, pressure transducer, 4-fold dosing, 3+1-fold gravimetric dosing, side-dose PSF 46, strand head, water bath, strand granulator, temperature control unit, water cooler, material conveyer, Siemens S7 central control with visualization

Availability: immediately Hours: 0 Cup-Cake dosing line suitable for the production of round CUP-CAKES Ø 45 - 90 mm and small cakes (muffins, Magdalenas, Cake-Donuts, Mini-Cake Donuts, cake bars etc.) arranged on trays measuring 400x600 mm, with 6 x 9 wells. DESCRIPTION OF THE MACHINE: PART 1 No. 1 conveyor belt with plate chains, which is positioned at the entrance of the dosing line and serves as a buffer for about 4 sheets, with the following characteristics: ● Infinitely variable movement by means of a motor with frequency converter. ● Usable width: 600 mm. ● Length: 1500 mm. ● Mounted on wheels. PART 2 No. 1 Intermittent chain conveyor with slides, with the following features: ● Adjustable guide walls. ● Drive with a motor with frequency converter. ● Intermittent movement, electromechanically controlled, with programmable conveying step. ● Acceler ...

Film recycling and granulation plant Material: PE, PP, // Cascade extruder, snail/LD x 220+150/ x 26D, drives 232 & 99 kW, water separator, hot tee with underwater cooling, only 8,500 operating hours

used wood carburetor Plant Bj 99 with control cabinets and Perkins gas engine, Generator Stamford 670 kVA Plant was only in operation for 6 months also associated wood chip drying plant available

Specifications: Support surface table: Width x Depth x Max. Clamping Distance: 192 x 115 x 120 mm Height center cutting wheel above table: 520 mm Cutting disc height adjustment via Cylinder with measuring system: 445 mm Cutting Wheel Dimensions: Min.: 350 x 2.8 x 32 mm Max.: 400 x 4.0 x 32 mm Workpiece dimensions max. length: Workpiece feeder: 3500 mm Workpiece discharge: 2000 mm Workpiece dimensions min. length: Workpiece feeder: 300 mm Workpiece discharge: 300 mm Workpiece feeder: Servo - controlled Measuring distance via measuring system: 3500 mm Circumferential speed: 25 - 60 m/sec Main motor: 10 kW Dimensions of separation system (WxDxH), approx.: 850 x 1600 x 2815 mm Weight: Machine: 980 kg Workpiece feeder: 380 kg Workpiece discharge: 350 kg Control cabinet: 280 kg

Material: PS, PE, PP, PA, // Details: DC motor 145 kW, screw revolutions: up to 600rpm, screw diameter 70 mm, L/D 32, segmented screws and cylinders, degassing (optional vacuum pump), control: Siemens S7 with visualization. incl. strand nozzle with water bath and strand granulator, motor up to 265kW possible. For extra charge: underwater granulation, or water ring granulation

Material: PE, PP, PS, ABS, / Details: double screw, runner, segmented screws + cylinder, hydraulic. Cassette sieve changer, strand nozzle, 6m water bath, strand granulator, additive dosing. 3-fold degassing (vacuum pump vs. extra charge), For an additional price: dosing system, water ring or underwater granulation.

Grease baking device Jufeba TK-2000 -Fat baking device Jufeba -Type: TK 2000 -20 kW -Outside mass: 198x91cm -Basin inside mass: 194x87cm

Complete chocolate production plant, plant components: - Beetz MK 2/500 chocolate mixer, refurbished 2023 with new electrics and new dust filter. Connecting belt to the 3-roll mill - Bauermeister DW 51 three-roll mill, refrubished 2023 with new electric and water station, connecting belt to the 5-roll refiner - Bühler SFG 1000 five-roll mill, refrubished in 2023 with new electric and water station, connecting belt to the conche - Frisse DÜC 1R Conche, refrubished 2023 with new electrics and new metal sieve separator - RF Block Melter/Fat Melter, new 2023 - RF bag feeding station (suction conveyor system), new 2023 The entire system is dismantled and stored in our warehouse in Germany. Documentation available. The facility is sold in existing condition, free loaded truck, packing and/or, container stowage are not included in the price

Material: PE, PP, PS, ABS // Details: Screw diameter 2x 50 mm, L/D 32, DC motor 52 kW, Runner, segmented screws and cylinders, degassing, vacuum pump, screw speed: 400 rpm, strand nozzle, water bath, strand granulator. Power: approx. 150 - 250 KG/hr.

Grease baking device Roka plant Tippfix Model DA 900 -14.4 kW -Outside mass: 80x204cm -Basin indoor mass: 70x194cm

Material: PE, PP, PS, ABS + talc, fibers / Details: twin-screw extruder PLAMA ZSP 70, segmented screws and cylinders, DC motor 260 kW, degassing, vacuum pump, side feed, low temperature control unit SINGLE, 4+1 gravimetric dosing BRABENDER incl. working platform, screen changer GNEUSS RSF 150, start-up crossover, underwater granulation GALA MAP6 with cutting rotor, water system, heat exchanger, centrifugal dryer. Controls: SIEMENS S7 with screen visualization SIEMENS Multi Panel 270B Touch. Power: approx. 600 - 800 KG/hr

Distillation plant for WFI water or pure steam generation Manufacturer : DEWA Type: DP 30 EVS Technical specifications : Distillation or pure steam plant this system can be used to produce either distillate or pure steam. Production 30 litres/h Feed water consumption 35 l/h Cooling water consumption system at 95 °C Destwasser 200 l/h electric heating capacity 18 kW max. operating pressure 1.9 bar min. cooling water pressure 1.0 bar min. feed water pressure 1.0 bar min. pressure for control air 6.0 bar Total capacity evaporator approx. 27 litres Evaporator capacity at max. level approx. 11 litres Dimensions: Height 2240 mm Width 970 mm Depth 700 mm Empty weight 300 kg Documents: available

Material: PE, PP, PS, ABS / Details: three-phase motor 215 kW, segmented screws and cylinders, continuous rotors, screw diameter 50 mm, L/D 40, power: approx. 400 - 800 KG/hr, degassing, SIHI vacuum pump, gravimetric belt scale K-Tron WF 300 with stubble, strand nozzle, continuous cooling belt, cooling tank, squid granulator Scheer SGS 100, moisture measuring unit, control unit Siemens S7 with visualization.

Extraction plant

BRIKOL BT 1000 granulation line was built in 2019 in Poland by BRIKOL Sp. z o.o. (first launch in 2020). This extremely efficient and energy-saving system is designed for the production of pellets from various types of raw materials, i.e. wood waste, sawdust and bran. It features a number of components with the best technical parameters, which enable the entire production process to be performed fully automatically. In this way, the problem of waste disposal in the carpentry and sawmill industry can be solved while at the same time making a profit. The BRIKOL pellet production line is fully complete and has the following components: – MB37 hammer mill – drum dryer – kiln – pellet mill – pellet sifter – sawdust conditioner – tank – flight conveyor (2 pcs) – screw conveyor – binder hopper – cooling device – control cabinet with display and computer  ...