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Travel X/Y/Z: 600mm/500mm/400mm, table dimensions X/Y: 900mm/600mm, spindle mount: SK40, speed: 6000rpm, tool positions: 24, feed: 6m/min, rapid traverse: 15m/min, machine dimensions X/Y/Z: approx. 4000mm/4000mm/2700mm, weight: approx. 5000kg. On-site inspection is possible.

A CNC vertical machining center Akira Performa with a counter bearing on the A-axis is available. Travel X/Y/Z: 2060mm/850mm/815mm, spindle-table distance: 120mm-935mm, table dimensions X/Y: 2150mm/800mm, max. table load: 3240kg. Spindle power: 42kW, speed: 8000rpm, tool holder: BT50, rapid traverse X/Y/Z: 36m/36m/30m/min, positioning accuracy: 0.015mm, repetition accuracy: +/-0.005mm. Tool positions: 28, max. tool diameter: 100mm/200mm, max. tool length: 350mm, max. tool weight: 15kg. Machine dimensions X/Y: approx. 5000mm/3550mm, weight: approx. 14500kg, control: Siemens 828, documentation available. On-site inspection is possible.

Travel X/Y/Z: 800mm/800mm/800mm, feed force X/Y/Z: 15000N/15000N/17500N, feed speed X/Y/Z: 50m/min, max. rotary table speed: 25rpm, spindle diameter: 100mm, tool holder: HSK 100, spindle power S1-100%: 40kW, spindle speed: 6000rpm. Magazine capacity for a maximum tool diameter of 280mm: 23. Max. pallet dimensions X/Y: 630mm/630mm, max. pallets in the system: 6, coolant tank volume: 1500l, 50bar high-pressure pump delivery rate: 22l/min. Machine dimensions X/Y/Z: approx. 6300mm/4900mm/4000mm, weight: approx. 19,300kg, control: Siemens 840D powerline, operating hours: 74,637h. Includes integrated tool monitoring IPM, remote diagnostics via modem, Renishaw MP10 touch probe, RSP 4-position round storage, chip removal, coolant system with Knoll VRF 250 vacuum rotary filter, pallet changing device, 6 pallets, 4 of which are clamping towers with universal clamping bars, approx. 100 HSK 100 tool ...

Travel X/Y/Z: 600mm/410mm/520mm, table dimensions X/Y: 840mm/420mm, spindle speed: 6000rpm, spindle power: 8.5kW, tool holder: SK40, tool positions: 22, rapid traverse X/Y/Z: 36m/36m/20m/min. Machine dimensions X/Y/Z: approx. 2200mm/2300mm/2300mm, weight: approx. 2500kg, control: Heidenhain TNC 426. An on-site inspection is possible.

Four Chiron CNC machining centers are available. Travel X/Y/Z: 1250mm/840mm/550mm, rapid traverse X/Y/Z: 60m/min, speed: 12000rpm, power: 22.5kW, torque: 140NM, tool positions: 24, tool holder: HSK-63, max. tool length: 320mm, machine weight: approx. 10000kg, control: Siemens 840D. Including IKZ, chip conveyor and Fibro swivel axis. Documentation available. On-site inspection is possible. Individual sale possible.

Travel X/Y/Z: 3200mm/300mm/250mm, speed: 18000rpm, motor power: 7.4kW, tool holder: SK30, tool positions: 8, tool changer: turret, materials processed: aluminum/steel (max. 5mm thick)/PVC (steel-reinforced and unreinforced), wood and plastics. Documentation available. On-site inspection is possible.

A Maka CNC 4-axis milling and drilling machine for plastic, wood and aluminum is available. Travel X/Y/Z: 2000mm/6000mm/250mm, C-axis: 360°, rapid traverse X/Y/Z: 45m/min/45m/min/24m/min, spindle mount: HSK63, spindle power: 12kW, spindle speed: 24000rpm. Tool places: 12, angle head places: 3, machine dimensions X/Y/Z: 12000mm/5700mm/3200mm, control: BWO 920, documentation available. On-site inspection is possible.

x-travel: 650 mm y-travel: 410 mm z-travel: 450 mm : travel: x vor 1000 mm control: mc4va total power requirement: kW weight of the machine ca.: t dimensions of the machine ca.: m The data for this ad was created with ModulMWS - the software solution of LogoTech oHG.

x-travel: 800 mm y-travel: 630 mm z-travel: 560 mm total power requirement: 60 kW weight of the machine ca.: 12.5 t dimensions of the machine ca.: m H E L L E R (Germany) 5 Axis - CNC Controlled Horizontal Machining Centre Model FST- MC 160 / 800 / E Year 1998 Only approx. 500 hours in operation _______________________________________________________ Working range: Longitudinal stroke X axis 800 mm Vertical stroke Y axis 630 mm Cross stroke Z axis 560 mm NC rotary table Tilting A axis 180 ° Turning B axis 360 ° Size of pallet, approx. 250 x 620 mm Tool holder HSK 63A Spindle speeds, infinitely variable 63 - 20,000 rpm Feeds / quick feeds XYZ 1 - 70,000 mm/min Spindle drive 24 kW Total electrical load, approx. 60 kW - 400 V - 50 Hz Weight, approx. 12,500 kg Accessories / Special Features 5-Axis SIEMENS CNC Path Control, Mode ...

x-travel: 800 mm y-travel: 500 mm z-travel: 510 mm total power requirement: 60 kW weight of the machine ca.: 10 t dimensions of the machine ca.: m The data for this ad was created with ModulMWS - the software solution of LogoTech oHG.

x-travel: 600 mm y-travel: 560 mm z-travel: 560 mm Control: SIEMENS 840 C total power requirement: 12 kW weight of the machine ca.: 10000 kg dimensions of the machine ca.: m The data for this ad was created with ModulMWS - the software solution of LogoTech oHG.

x-travel: 1200 mm y-travel: 600 mm z-travel: 600 mm total power requirement: 25 kW weight of the machine ca.: 11,5 t M A H O (Germany) CNC Controlled Bed Type Universal Machining Centre Model MH 1200 S (120012) Year 1991 Partially reconditioned in Year 2007 by MMD Company _____________________________________________________________ Table travel: X axis, longitudinal 1,200 mm Y axis, vertical 600 mm Spindle head Z axis, cross 600 mm Rotary Table size 1,000 x 800 mm Distance between spindle and column, max. 900 mm Spindle taper SK 40 Spindle speeds (infinitely variable in 2 steps) 20 – 6,300 rpm Max. weight of workpiece 1,000 kg Feeds / quick feeds, X, Y and Z Axes 1 – 4,000 / 12,000 mm/min Feeds / quick feeds, B Axi ...

x-travel: 500 mm y-travel: 380 mm z-travel: 300 mm Control: FANUC total power requirement: 12 kW weight of the machine ca.: 2300 kg dimensions of the machine ca.: m The data for this ad was created with ModulMWS - the software solution of LogoTech oHG.

x-travel: 1000 mm y-travel: 800 mm z-travel: 700 mm Control: HEIDENHAIN iTNC 530 total power requirement: 50 kW weight of the machine ca.: 16 t dimensions of the machine ca.: m The data for this ad was created with ModulMWS - the software solution of LogoTech oHG.

x-travel: 750 mm y-travel: 560 mm z-travel: 600 mm Control: HEIDENHAIN iTNC 530 total power requirement: 70 kW weight of the machine ca.: 11.000 kg dimensions of the machine ca.: m D E C K E L M A H O (Germany) Vertical CNC Machining Centre with high speed linear drives in 3 Axis and in double column design for high precision work Model DMC 75 V LINEAR Year 2005 _______________________________________________________ Working range: Longitudinal stroke X Axis 750 mm Vertical stroke Z Axis 600 mm Cross stroke Y Axis 560 mm Table clamping size 950 x 650 mm Max. Table load 1.000 kg Max. height of workpiece 600 mm Tool holder Cone HSK 63 Spindle (KESSLER) speeds 18,000 rpm Torque, max. 86/1 ...

x-travel: 630 mm y-travel: 550 mm z-travel: 500 mm total power requirement: 10 kW weight of the machine ca.: t dimensions of the machine ca.: m The data for this ad was created with ModulMWS - the software solution of LogoTech oHG.

x-travel: 500 mm y-travel: 300 mm z-travel: 350 mm total power requirement: 12 kW weight of the machine ca.: 3800 kg dimensions of the machine ca.: m The data for this ad was created with ModulMWS - the software solution of LogoTech oHG.

x-travel: 800 mm y-travel: 500 mm z-travel: 510 mm total power requirement: 60 kW weight of the machine ca.: 10 t dimensions of the machine ca.: m The data for this ad was created with ModulMWS - the software solution of LogoTech oHG.

x-travel: 800 mm y-travel: 400 mm z-travel: 350 mm total power requirement: 40 kW weight of the machine ca.: 8 t dimensions of the machine ca.: m The data for this ad was created with ModulMWS - the software solution of LogoTech oHG.

x-travel: 500 mm y-travel: 350 mm z-travel: 350 mm total power requirement: 15 kW weight of the machine ca.: 6 t dimensions of the machine ca.: m The data for this ad was created with ModulMWS - the software solution of LogoTech oHG.

x-travel: 630 mm y-travel: 630 mm z-travel: 630 mm total power requirement: 30 kW weight of the machine ca.: 12500 kg dimensions of the machine ca.: m The data for this ad was created with ModulMWS - the software solution of LogoTech oHG.

Daewoo X: 1250 - Y: 1000 - Z: 1000 mm CNC X-axes: 1250 mm Y-axes: 1000 mm Z-axes: 1000 mm Table dimensions: 800 x 800 mm Max weight on the table: 2000 kg Admission in spindle (ISO): ISO 50 Power on the spindle: 25 kW Control: Fanuc OM Number of axes: 4 axes: X,Y,Z,B Toolstore: yes Tools: 90 positions Frequency : 20 -> 4500 rpm Number of pallets : 2x Power principal motor: 70 kva Length: 4100 mm Depth: 6850 mm Height: 3240 mm Weight: 18 ton ACCESSORIES: yes Cooling-system: yes

A Röders vertical CNC high-speed machining center is available. Travel X/Y/Z: 600mm/450mm/300mm, speed: 42000rpm, tool holder: HSK-E40, power: 14kW, table dimensions X/Y: 700mm/500mm, max. workpiece weight: 800kg, feed: 30m/min, rapid traverse: 30m/min. Machine dimensions X/Y/Z: approx. 3500mm/3100mm/2700mm, weight: approx. 5200kg, control: Röders, operating hours: approx. 60894h. Including extraction system and chiller. Documentation available. On-site inspection is possible.

Manufacturer: Klaaßen Model: SDM15-5 Year of Manufacture: 2019 Type of Machine : Turning Machining Center - Turning Diameter: 1,500 mm - Center Distance: 4,500 mm Key Features: - 4-guideway bed machine - High-performance spindle box with backlash-free C-axis - Full-featured 3-axis milling (Y-axis travel = 340 mm) - Direct measuring system in each CNC axis - Infinitely adjustable motor milling spindle - Klaaßen motor milling spindle: 37 kW / 4000 rpm / 330 Nm (S1) - Automatic tool changer for turning and milling tools - Steady rests and tailstock fully traversable - Internal milling heads - Grinding support - Extensive accessories available Find more here - / Contact us at -

Mazak VTC-41 L X: 1660 - Y: 410 - Z: 510 mm CNC X-axis: 1660 mm Y-axis: 410 mm Z-axis: 510 mm Table dimensions: 2000 x 410 mm Max weight on the table: 800 kg Depth of throat (uprights-spindlecenter): 460 mm Admission in spindle (ISO): ISO 40 Power on the spindle: 11/7,5/5,5 kW Drilling-capacity: max dia 25 mm Tapping-capacity: max M24 Control : Mazatrol Number of axes: 3 axes Toolchanger: yes Number of rotations: 7000 rpm Length: 3900 mm Depth: 3050 mm Height: 2700 mm Weight: 6 ton

Manufacturer: SCHÜCO Model: PBS Type of Machine :Profile Processing System Technical Data - Travel Range: - X-Axis: 6850 mm - Y-Axis: 800 mm - Z-Axis: 500 mm - Rotation: - B-Axis: 0 to 90° continuously adjustable - C-Axis: 0 to 360° continuously adjustable - Feed Rate: - X, Y, Z Axis: 0–40 m/min - Rapid Traverse: 30 m/min - B and C Axis Rotation: 10,000°/min - Positioning Accuracy: - Over 6000 mm length: ±0.15 mm - Within 300 mm: ±0.1 mm Milling Unit - Tool Type: Drills, Milling Cutters - Tool Diameter: Up to Ø50 mm - Tool Length: Up to 90 mm - Saw Blade Cutter: Up to Ø300 mm - Spindle Drive Power: - For machining tools: max 7 kW - For saw blades: max 7 kW - Spindle Speed: - Up to 24,000 rpm - Tool Changer: - Change time (tool-to-tool): ≤ 1.5 s - Span-to-span time: ≤ 15 s - Tool Holder: HSK-E40 - Machine Power Requirement: Total power 17 kW Working Area - Clamping U ...

Chevalier X: 850 - Y: 510 - Z: 510 mm CNC X-axis: 850 mm Y-axis: 510 mm Z-axis: 510 mm Table dimensions: 1000 x 450 mm Admission in spindle (ISO): ISO 40 Power on the spindle: 7,5 kW Control : Siemens 810 Number of axes: 3 axes Toolchanger: yes Number of toolholders: 20 positions Number of rotations: 8000 rpm

Travel X/Y/Z: 1000mm/600mm/630mm, table dimensions X/Y: 1150mm/600mm, max. table load: 700kg, rapid traverse: 20m/min, speed: 10000rpm, tool positions: 24, machine dimensions X/Y/Z: approx. 2950mm/2650mm/2850mm, weight: approx. 5300kg, control: Mitsubishi Meldas. On-site inspection is possible.

x-travel: 610 mm y-travel: 455 mm z-travel: 520 mm weight of the machine ca.: 3,2 t The data for this ad was created with ModulMWS - the software solution of LogoTech oHG.

Manufacturer: DMG Model: DMC 60H linear Year of Manufacture: 2009 Operating Hours: 85,242 Spindle Hours: 61,694 Control Type: CNC Control System: Siemens Sinumerik 840 D Power: 35 kW Spindle Speed: 18,000 RPM Tool Changer Capacity: 180 tools Tool Holder: HSK-A63 Travel (X / Y / Z): - X: 630 mm - Y: 800 mm - Z: 680 mm Pallet Size: 500 x 500 mm Machine Dimensions (L x W x H): 5.0 x 4.0 x 3.4 m Find more here - / Contact us at -

Manufacturer: DMG Model: DMC 60H linear Year of Manufacture: 2007 Operating Hours: 104,836 Spindle Hours: 76,420 Control Type: CNC Control System: Siemens Sinumerik 840 D Power: 35 kW Max. Spindle Speed: 18,000 RPM Tool Changer Capacity: 180 tools Tool Holder: HSK-A63 Travel (X / Y / Z): - X: 630 mm - Y: 800 mm - Z: 680 mm Pallet Size: 500 x 500 mm Machine Dimensions (L x W x H): 5.0 x 9.9 x 3.4 m Additional Feature: - Pallet changer RS4 with 4 pallets Find more here - / Contact us at -

Axes: 5, travel X/Y/Z: 400mm/400mm/375mm, spindle speed: 18000rpm, power: 35kW, tool holder: HSK-A63, tool positions: 60, rapid traverse: 30m/min, table dimensions X/Y: 480mm/480mm, max. workpiece weight: 250kg, machine weight: approx. 8150kg, operating hours: approx. 50950h, spindle hours: approx. 20200h. The lifting and swivel unit of the pallet changer are defective. Documentation available. An on-site inspection is possible.

A machining center is available. Travel X/Y/Z: 550mm/400mm/425mm, A-axis: +/-100°, rapid traverse: 40m/min, speed: 10500rpm, tool positions: 20, tool holder: SK40, table load: 300kg, control: Siemens Sinumerik. The screen of the machine is defective. Documentation available. On-site inspection is possible.

Manufacturer: Star Model: ECAS-32T Year of Manufacture: 2005 Frequency: 50/60 Hz Power: 8.0 KVA The machine comes with an automatic bar feeder and oil mist filter. Automatic Bar Feeder: Manufacturer: FMB Model: TURBO 3-36/3200/A Year of Manufacture: 2006 Find more here - / Contact us at -

Manufacturer: Star Model: ECAS-32T Year of Manufacture: 2007 Voltage: AC 200V (3 Phase) Frequency: 50/60 Hz Power: 8.0 KVA Weight: 5700 Kg The machine comes with an automatic bar feeder and oil mist filter. Automatic Bar Feeder: Manufacturer: FMB Model: TURBO 3-26/3200/A Year of Manufacture: 2008 Find more here - / Contact us at -

Travel X/Y/Z: 500mm/400mm/500mm, table dimensions X/Y/Z: 750mm/500mm, max. table load: 900kg, tool holder: CAT40, spindle speed: 7500rpm, spindle power: 11kW, tool positions: 21, feed: 5m/min, rapid traverse: 10m/min. Machine dimensions X/Y/Z: 2100mm/2300mm/2650mm, weight: approx. 2500kg. Documentation available. On-site inspection is possible.

Horizontal machining centre with 2-fold change table STEINEL type BFZ 5 with CNC control SIEMENS Sinumerik 810 MFabr. No. 34 Year of construction 1988Travel range X: 500 mm, Y: 400 mm, Z: 320 mmClamping surface, table surface 500 x 400 mmTool holder ISO 40Spindle speed max. 6300 rpm. infinitely variableMain spindle drive 12 kWNet connection 380 Volt, 50 Hz, 30 kVA- Tool changer with 24 tool positions- Changing table with 2 stations- Interface for data transfer- Coolant device with chip conveyorSpace requirement L x W x

Travel X/Y/Z: 1000mm/600mm/600mm, feed rate: 30m/min, rapid traverse: 30m/min, table dimensions X/Y: approx. 1200mm/600mm, max. table load: 800kg, tool stations: 24, tool holder: SK40, speed: 8000rpm. Machine dimensions X/Y/Z: approx. 3000mm/3500mm/3000mm, weight: approx. 5000kg, operating hours: approx. 10346h, spindle hours: approx. 10346h. Includes a compact filtration system Interlit SUK 200/550, year of manufacture: 2000. The machine is equipped with a new control system. Documentation available. An on-site inspection is possible.

Manufacturer: WEEKE Model: OPTIMAT BHT 500 Year of Manufacture: 2009 Technical Specifications: - Voltage: 400 V - Frequency: 50/60 Hz - Phases: 3 + N (three-phase with neutral) - Power Consumption: 45 kW - Current Rating: 100 A - Control Voltage: 24 V Find more here - / Contact us at -

Travel path X/Y/Z: 1630mm/860mm/760mm, speed: 8000rpm, torque: 142Nm, power: 15kW, tool positions: 40, max. tool diameter: 75mm/127mm, max. tool length: 300mm, max. tool weight: 10kg, table dimensions X/Y: 1680mm/890mm, max. table load: 2700kg. Machine dimensions X/Y/Z: approx. 6400mm/4400mm/3300mm, weight: approx. 14500kg, control: Hurco Ultimax 4, operating hours: approx. 621h. Documentation available. An on-site inspection is possible. Expected to be available from mid-2026.

x-travel: . mm y-travel: . mm z-travel: . mm control: Mazatrol M-32 spindle turning speed range: 6000 U/min workpiece length - max.: 1300 mm workpiece width - max.: 550 mm workpiece height max.: 600 mm Workpiece mass max.: 1500 tool length - max.: 400 mm diameter of tools max.: D= 125 mm diameter of tools max.: freie Nachbarplätze D=260 mm Tol measurements: 20 kg total power requirement: kW weight of the machine ca.: t dimensions of the machine ca.: m The tech. Data are manufacturer or operator information and therefore non- binding. We reserve the right to prior sale, Our terms and conditions of sale apply exclusively. About us More than 400 of our own machines in stock Over 15,000 m² of storage space, 70 t crane capacity More than 10,000 items and accessories for your workshop If you are interested in selling machines, production lines, or your business, please contact us. You can f ...

CONTROLS   CNC controls HEIDENHAIN TNC 426 WORKING RANGE -CUBIC-   number of processing axes (excl parallel axes): 3   X-axis travel: 500 mm   Y-axis travel: 350 mm   Z-axis travel: 610 mm TABLE   table surface (left-right): 920 mm   table surface (front-back): 380 mm SPINDLE / HEAD   spindle revolutions (min): 50 /min   spindle revolutions (max): 18000 /min   tool fixture: ISO SK 30 TOOL MAGAZINE   number of positions: 24 ELECTRICAL SPECIFICATIONS   mains voltage: 400 V   mains frequency: 50 Hz DIMENSIONS / WEIGHTS   space requirements -left/right-: 2000 mm   space requirements -front/back-: 1700 mm   total height: 3000 mm   total weight approx.: 3200 kg ATTACHMENTS   chip conveyor: no   coolant unit: yes   through spindle coolant attachment: no   closed cabin: yes   European CE standards: yes Machine in TOP condition - Power ON :     ...

A machining center Chiron, which was completely overhauled in 2013, is available. Travel path X/Y: 6000mm/630mm, rapid traverse: 60m/min, tool positions: 92, tool holder: HSK-A63, speed: 12000rpm, torque: 140Nm, milling axes: 5, weight: approx. 20000kg, control: Siemens S840D, operating hours: 77344h. Includes scraper belt conveyor, OKZ preparation, Knoll VRF 250 vacuum rotary filter, high-pressure pump (70bar), emulsion mist extraction (2x800m³/h), central partition for pendulum machining, hydraulic unit (210bar), and Kohn linear clamping system with 8x hydraulic vices Multi 2000MFS 125/680 HD. Documentation available. An on-site inspection is possible.

Travel path X/Y/Z: 630mm/630mm/560mm, tool holder: HSK-63A, tool positions: 60, pallets: 2, pallet dimensions X/Y: 500mm/500mm, machine dimensions X/Y/Z: approx. 6600mm/6000mm/3200mm, weight: approx. 18000kg, control: Siemens Sinumerik, operating hours: approx. 24152. The machine has a system error - Runtime Error 285, Application oem4421 - and the PLC does not start up. Documentation available. An on-site inspection is possible.

Manufacturer: Chiron Model: MILL 6000 high speed with NC swivel head Year of Manufacture: 2004 Major overhaul: 2013 Operating hours: 77,374 h Weight: 19,500 kg Power Supply: 3/N/PE ~ 50/60 Hz Working Voltage: 400 V Control Voltage: 220/24 V Power Consumption: 52 kVA Rated Current: 75 A Fuse: 80 A Last spindle replacement: March 2021 (approx. 7,300 spindle hours since) Technical Data: - Control: Siemens 840D (PCU50, NCU572.4) - NC swivel head - Travel paths: X 6,000 mm / Y 630 mm - Rapid feed: X / Y / Z = 60 m/min - Motor spindle: 12,000 rpm, 140 Nm - Tool change time (chip-to-chip): 3.0 sec (vertical), 4.7 sec (horizontal) - Tool magazine: 92 tool positions, HSK-A63 Find more here - / Contact us at -

Manufacturer: SW Model: BA-W 06-22 Year of Manufacture: 2007 Control: Siemens 840 D Technical Details: - Spindle Distance: 600 mm - Travel X: 600 mm - Travel Y: 600 (975) mm - Travel Z: 500 mm - Travel A: 600 mm - Max. Rapid Traverse Speed (X/Y/Z): 45 m/min - Tool Holder: A63 HSK - Tool Magazine: 2 × 72 tools - Spindle Speed: 17,500 rpm - Drive Power: 38 kW - Weight: 18,000 kg Equipment: - 2-fold tool changer - 2 NC-controlled swiveling units for clamping bridge - 2 NC-controlled swiveling units - 4 NC-controlled rotary tables - KNOLL cooling unit - IKZ high-pressure pump 70 bar - Chip conveyor - Additional control panel for tool management Find more here - / Contact us at -

Type: Ultrix 800 RT A high-end 5 interpolated axes multitasking machining centre. Designed for the highest performance in machining 3D shapes that require turning, milling, drilling and grinding.nbsp;Tailored to applications ranging from complex gears, impellers to molds, dies, tools,... for projects in aerospace, automotive, power generation,... max workpiece diameter: 900 mm A-axis: -30° / 110° C-axis: continuous max distance between spindle and table: 650 mm Options fitted to machine: 1 - high speed spindle of 40 000 rpm 2 - table with diameter 700 mm 3 - toolchanger with 150 positions 4 - chipconveyor 5 - coolant system with recuperation 6 - temperature regulation for coolant 7 - high pressure cooling (40 to 70 bar) through spindle 8 - smoke extraction system 9 - chip collection box 10 -nbsp;presetting system and tool integrity 11 - Renishaw measuring probe X-axis: 800 mm Y-axi ...